( Consequently this a WOC centric and safe space post . Be it to defend or attack if people try and recenter it over to white women I will incinerate your comments. It's THAT serious to me)
Didn't BFP know I did not want to think too hard this week.
In light of this, WCD and Latina Lista’s posts really made me wonder, how much of this distaste for sex (or ambiguity towards sex) stems from body issues for women of color? How much of it stems from undiagnosed/unacknowledged disability? How much of it stems from just not knowing how to ask for what is necessary? How much of it stems from just being tired, tired of the world, and not having the damn energy to think about sex, much less enjoy it? How much of it stems from racisms that expect us to be a particular way, when actually, that particular way is embarrassing or it hurts? How much of it stems from not having any damn clue what turns us on…because we’ve never been allowed to actually even consider what turns us on?Girl this was my birthday week I haven't been sober or not in a food coma for three DAYS.
I avoid talking about sex now, it makes me sad , then angry, then kind of violent and that can't be healthy.
So I don't talk about but fuck it I want to talk to the sisters about the sisters for my OWN health. ( also if WOC would prefer to have this off blog my email she is open)
I went to see the Simpsons for my Birthday Extravaganza and ( slight spoiler) towards the end there is this exchange. One of the Flanders kids wishes for something and NEd toussles his cute little red afro and goes.
" I wish you didn't have the Devil's curly hair"
And he sniffles.
No matter how much he prayed, how much he was "good" he still had the Devil's curly hair.
That I understood and BFP put it like this
blackamazon–you speak of something that latinas go through as well–you know that whole image of latinas–the pure sexy hot virgin? the one that prays earnestly and goes to confession every week etc? The woman that does that in mexican culture is a woman who is almost considered asexual–nuns, mothers, women who are not going to “put out”–but in dominating white culture–that woman is considered “clean” and her piety becomes something to fetishize–she’s “clean” and she looks to the man to be “trained”–she doesn’t know what she’s doing and she’s easily managable, because she believes in The Lord, thus, the right man (the white man) can take over the role of The Lord and have a loyal subject on his hands.
I’ve never really thought about it until know, but I do wonder how much Catholicism gets ruined or “dirtied” for young latinas–how many of them don’t take catholicism seriously or their religious piety seriously because the serious catholic latina is such a sexualized role.
but anyway–that’s the thing isn’t it amazon–how do women of color negotiate their place in this? how do they find their own sexuality that they are proud of and enjoy when all the options seem to be so harmful? and how do we help young women find their own sexualities when we aren’t even talking to them about sex/sexuality until they are older youths (and that’s if we talk to them at all) but youths are being bombarded with this shit from the time they are little girls? babies really?
This is especially resonant for me BFP because while not Latina, I am both a former desperate want to be novice and a member of a consistently sexualized culture(s).
Plus I myself by my lonesome am highly sexual/sensual/horny whatever.
And yes I too am a 23 year old virgin( though we prefer in my circles to think of it as friend of the unicorns)
And I am a huge nerd.
But I also have sway back and tits I have been carrying since 6!
As a wannabe novice it requires a level of intensity , commitment , and straight up contradiction that in my own culture is fine and expected in a variety of ways both sexual and non sexual.
I have seen my mom curse out teachers, my dad fight off cops, and at least three of my aunts threaten people with pans.
All of them making lives in a completely foreign nation.
While the men of my culture don't win prizes for progressiveness, there was very much a cultural comfort with knowing that your intensity and drive or even your passion
Wasn't AUTOMATICALLY sexual and might be respected as such.
The nun thing is a prime example , yes Catholicism ( and one day I'll tell you why I would be willing to change religions to be a nun) but it wasn't assumed as is too often thought of when considering non white women , that our subservience to god was automatically translated to a desire of GENERAL subservience or ignorance.
Especially since as WOC if we are devoutly Christian it is almost without fail a god that has been translated to us for that purpose, of domination.
And your right as pious as I was, as committed as I was . I actively believed I was called for the greatness of service
It did NOT matter if I followed every good girl kit in the book. It did NOT matter is if I made myself as asexual as possible.
Even when it was bone straight and falling out I still had some version of the Devil's curly hair.
I found it hard after a while to believe this shit AT ALL.
My piety was something to be overcome or " grown out of" . For the most part outside my own community which let us be clear I was pretty much gone from in a large way at THIRTEEN
And it wasn't cause I was specific in some way but because I was general. Brown and female. I at one point stopped pointing out I was South American because it was resultant of an icky exchange.
No matter how good I was . How dedicated to service or sure of my calling, being brown would trump it all.
And it was very specifically not ABOUT me
And it DID coincide with my discovery of feminism. And it truly truly fucking irritated me.
While the stuff I was being exposed to touted the ability of women to make choices and be free with out any ramifications.
About shucking the whole prized and precious moniker , and moving forward into FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
It never EVER addressed how intertwined that prized and precious distinction LIVED on the fact that the natural sexual urges would be exercised on those NOT so prized and precious.
What irritates more is the epidemic of "oh you poor traumatized child" you must want to overcome these things.
Here's a scary thought.
NO I DON'T.
Susie Bright wrote about White Sex
and quite frankly it irritated the FUCK out me. and I like Susie Bright.
But what irked me is the fact that uh no. Everyone SHOULD NOT have the right to White Sex and when our communities criticize us it's not at base for acting white even if it's vocalized that way, and we know it.
It is for acting white when
WE KNOW WE ARE NOT.
Our communities actually have our own autonomous believes that we are capable of transgressing without acting white. Not to mention ingrained codes of morality ( which may suck but our OURS)
A Native mother has every right to be scared.
A Mexican mother, a black mother, an immigrant mother
A non english speaker should be scared
If the choice is be sex negative or ill prepare her child for the fact that with ALL the good training and conscientiousness in the world, she may still get picked off and never ever see justice.
For WOC teaching Children of Color , often without the resources and education or time to steadily consider our children's sex lives while just trying to keep em alive.
Sex negativity isn't something to be mourned .
It's actually good common damn sense.
Is it damaging in some ways?
Oh hell yes.
But frankly we do what we gotta.
As a woman of color Is it just me or that unless it can be deemed useful or pointed to as an example of stuff that white women can do to , I ( until I started looking for my self) never hear positive WOC sexuality stories .
( let me riff on the vagina monologues one day You'll think I lost my mind)
We come up as road kill and bad traffic accidents.
When I wrote Born to Be , It was AS MUCH for the "prudes" as the "sluts". Girls going mild suffer just as much as the ones gone wild and often get MUCH less attention and while Wendy Shalit is a tool, there is a rush to declare this girls mis guided or repressed.
They are making good decisions. I made em. And as fucked as I am in some ways I wouldn't change it.
As someone who was a prude while fielding sex questions and youth crises that damn near put me off the though of sex FOREVER. I always ALWAYS notice that the easiest help and advice to get was always pushing the idea of
It's no big deal NO BIG DEAL!
or it'll be less than you thought.
And that is very very RARELY the case for us. You know? When you talk BFP about making the best with what you got. That's all we have , I don't care what people say but we get little to no support and manage . And if folks aren't gonna focus and address us then OF COURSE we gonna make some not widely acceptable choices but they make perfect sense . And stop saying their wrong or not smart cause most of that ish isn't actual concern but class or condescension.
IF what we need is human affirmation or possibly never to be touched again. How do people who never let us talk get off on claiming us going and fuck no is debilitating, especially when so much is geared to them.
When I was 16 (at this time that would be basically 2001) in the new millennium I had a hell of a time finding non white girl centric sex advice. So who is really shocked that WOC are wary
My birthday alcoholic haze was hilarious. Saw the boy who broke my Hormones. Wouldn't say heart as that's not was involved and caused a scene and had some fun.
Then it's less funny
But in the Mcdonald's , I saw kids and I mean kids some of em less than 18 out cause they been PUT OUT for being gay while brown.
Two or three with the accent that let me know they were mine and these kids weren't suffering for their sex.
But their sexuality, their nerve of wanting to be as open about who they loved and wanted to be held by.
And their now homeless. Do people even look at them except to tut them , do those who do get money , is it wrong if those who do are trying first to get em fed and clothed
And this is happening during their formative years. Shit I may still be in my formative years depending who you ask
And to get to the point where I even like my sexuality is so arduous and it hangs on a razors edge .
Man I understand when sisters go . AND FORGET IT
And no thanks or it's entirely utilitarian
Ands also whats the difference between sex and sexuality
Cause I think there's also a huge cultural problem with that within white hegemony
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