Tuesday, May 22, 2007

I'd like to thank the academe

So it finally happened .

I finally just burst into tears.
I get it , it is perfectly understood to me where I stand, and I will never make that mistake again.

I mean there is nothing silencing in being quoted while at the same time not being read. There is nothing at all discouraging about being repeatedly called an attention whore in so many words.

Meanwhile refusing to link your own blog to your name on larger blogs for the express purpose of not wanting anyone to focus on anything but the words your typing.

I would like to thank the feminist blogosphere which seems so involved in wanting to bring young women to feminism for making me weep.

Essentially because I had the NERVE to express an opinion.

I mean there really is a limit to how much one person can take.

It's not like I might have my own feelings or emotions connected to MY WORDS as often times as I was asked to consider the work of others.

It would not hurt me at all to see your work and your intentions degraded after at least extending the intellectual courtesy of being sure to give something the benefit of a full reading( or 2 or 3) even if it actively hurt you

And being told that because you gave it that courtesy , no body bothered to give your words the fucking time of day.

It is not at all bewildering as a young person to be accused of all kinds of class and intellectual snobbery for protesting linguistic choices as how it influences their appreciation of material.

But it is not at all appropriate for you to use that same language when you are in so many words being construed as petty jealous and traitorous.

There is nothing at all devaluing in being told you must be inherently worse than someone else to disagree with them.

OR that just by virtue of who you are your opinion is worth less, no matter how much time you've expended trying to be fair.

And after all that the backhanded " compliments" the effort, the self control, the screaming pointed invective, followed by vague apologies . You get to be told

" Well she was busy"

And the Grand solution everyone wants is that you should spend MORE of your

Non important, worthless, whiney , to stupid to know who the real enemies are time.

Because surely you have OOODLES of it to make other people feel better about letting you be treated like shit in the past.

Surely you want to dedicate MORE time to people who can't be bothered to read you while calling you a jealous , who take every opportunity to inform each other of how little you matter unless it's helping them .

I mean it's not all soul crushing and flabbergasting to see more time dedicated to this weeks stupid fashion trend than the literal ripping of babies form their mothers breasts or your people getting dumped into

Or that they'd expend more time storming someone who calls them " special interest groups" than keeping people who shed light in the dark corners of the world.

I mean definitely as much time dedicated to that as possible

It's not at all supremely heartbreaking to see that if you manage to carve any little bit of safe space for your self to be even remotely honest about how you feel , you can be called traitorous and evil and lower tier

And make not sure you can ever use those spaces again, I mean you having any safe space besides the one your designated

I mean you couldn't possible value these things at all, so why would anybody ask. And feeling do you even have them.

And if you defend them at all please be prepared to absorb everyone else's psychic bullshit about how their not a bad person and how you should absolve them of their guilt

And god forbid you stupid worthless ugly self gets any support, anybody who would dare support you fiercely will get called everything but a child of God and their actual name for the sake of community building. be cause anyone who doesn't participate will seem a- ok with it happening

Because you should be happy their doing their best ( and never forget the underlying current that you should be GLAD this is the best you're ever gonna do)

And why don't you just quit if you're so un happy like there are numerous places in your life full of way to many underhanded hostile privileged people you will get to commune with common souls, I need to get rid of that because

the twenty people who assure me I am not completely insane matter less than the hundreds of cheerleaders elsewhere

or t suddenly hundreds of people marveling at you like some odd piece of exotic sculpture but don't speak ( though truly thank you for those who do)

I mean you haven't been through jailed fathers, hunger, poverty, isolation, objects being pelted at you, government mandated destruction of your home life, body hate, racism, violence, near death.

You haven't kept that to yourself to be fair and attentive or keep things reasonably even keeled.

Anyone you try to deal with will shunt you off to someone else.

Cause your pain and hurt is not their responsibility

But theirs is everyones

And there is no way I am sobbing myself red and sick in front of a computer reliving every horrible moment or missed need or feat of superhuman strength or complete and utter feeling of lostness and unmooring you have felt in your 22 years

Because you were stupid enough to be born black female foreign and vocal. And the complete idiocy of preferring your own

Because you wanted more Moraga less masturbation. Possibly more hope less hate. And could not get behind mocking " good christian girls "" because whether you are one now it may have been the only thing keeping you from slitting you wrists

And while all of this is happening people want to remind you again that this is about the young women

Who can't care less

Who can't do less

But have a couple more dollars to spend.

And to see the absoluter fury and rage and pain and active leaving of your foremothers footnoted or merely theorized

THE ONLY THINGS BESIDES GOD HIM/HER/IT SELF that kept you from cracking. Why the fuck should you be protective

But why the fuck should you matter " MY POC/YOUNG WOMEN LIKED IT"

Who cares what you actually said.

And while this is happening no one even has the care to ask how you are unless they can get something from it

or the decency to actually say your name

66 comments:

ilyka said...

Fuck that space all to hell. More worried about a violation of sacred netiquette than the everyday ordinary don't-even-notice-anymore violations of you and yours. To hell with it. Those are some shit priorities.

belledame222 said...

(((BA)))

lurking reader said...

The more I read on the internet, the more I become convinced that it is NOT a safe place for most of us. I think priorities get warped and there is never any way to make sure that the words we write will be interpreted the way they were intended. There are the cliques of people who will never admit to being cliques. These people will always have a US/THEM mentality and no amount of reason will change who or what they are.

I think the best we can do (and the most loving thing we can do for ourselves) is focus on the GOOD that's out there--the good people, the supportive people, the ones who are not afraid to stand beside you when you desperately need someone to stand beside you. I think we all fall into the trap of focusing too much of our energy on things that simply will never change--on People who will never change and we don't allow the goodness that we know is here help buoy us up.

I think it's important to recognize when enough is enough and to turn our backs on those who continue to fail us. We should surround ourselves with the people who give us light. Don't look back because ultimately, it's their loss, not yours.

Anonymous said...

I think I missed something. What happened?

Ravenmn said...

Well aside from the fact that the screwing over you and a lot of people have gotten sucks royally, I also want to thank the goddesses that you are expressing yourself and making all kinds of sense.

I've been out of the conversations in part because I'm involved in bringing an author to town. In reading his book I've come to not only hate him, but pity him. So it's odd to be going through that while watching the FFF thing from a distance.

What they have in common is their rejection of something awesome that I treasure in you. Although it hurts like hell sometimes, you care about the world and the people in it.

A lot of folks forget that. They become cynical and judgmental and rude. We all have excuses to go that route. What's amazing is that some of us choose not to.

And for making that choice, I thank you and the rest of the women who've been speaking up and refusing to surrender.

Renegade Evolution said...

BA:

((hug))

...

I don't know what else to say.

Octogalore said...

BA: I'm with lurking reader on: fuck 'em. But you're brave to keep putting your thoughts out there so eloquently. I'm so sorry that it seems like the return on that is shitty. Hugs from me too.

Samhita said...

This is crazy. Blackamazon, I never said you were an attention whore.

I never said your name because I wasn't talking haven't been talking about you.

I am distraught over you being so upset. I don't think your feelings are any less legitimate than mine or anyone else's.

I think we all need to walk away and figure out what the hell is going on here.

lovelesscynic said...

I just wanted to say that as a result of the whole "book thing" I discovered your site, and I've really enjoyed reading what you write. I'm sorry that this has been such a painful experience, I really hope you keep writing.

And, um, Samhita, I don't necessarily feel comfortable saying this, since it's not really my space, but, saying that "This is crazy." (I'm not sure if you're referring to the whole FFF debate or to BA's post, which seems to be in response to it) and then beginning every single sentence after it with the word "I" gives me the impression that you are trying to make this all about you.

belledame222 said...

I wasn't talking haven't been talking about you.

well, you know, I think that maybe just maybe that's exactly part of the problem. Because she's been here and had some seriously valuable contributions all along; and yet--

I think the point is, samhita, that y'know, you want solidarity and support, okay fine, but these guys -have- been there, have given support. Have been ignored. Except, pretty much, when a shitstorm is a-blowing. And then, somehow, the shitstorm is -their fault.-

And then--look, you've been talking about feeling the cumulative effect; can you not see that BA is doing the same?

Thin Black Duke said...

BA - You know I'm here for you and you know where to find my hiding ass. You already know how I feel about all of this, but yeah...what Ilyka said. And what Lurking Reader said.

Thin Black Duke said...

And a hug too.

Joseph Kugelmass said...

BlackAmazon,

I'm so sorry you're feeling wrecked by this; I can't imagine how it would be otherwise, though, considering the backlash. You're still writing some of the most important, powerful feminist prose anywhere.

Obviously, the confrontation this time had a history behind it, and was to some extent a repetition of that history. Still, it looks to me like every time a wave of posts by you & your fans breaks against those ramparts, a little more equality of expression & readership happens.

I think you are making a difference, but that isn't going to make it feel better. I hope you find ways of recovering and keeping on. Take care, BA.

Donna said...

the twenty people who assure me I am not completely insane matter less than the hundreds of cheerleaders elsewhere

This is the one that hurts me the most BA. This is the one I feel. Once again instead of listening they close ranks to prove we were never one of them. Sure they love them some WOC in feminist circles, until we open our mouths and what comes out isn't praise and gratitude. Then you know you were an afterthought all along. But gosh they were so nice to include us by talking about us amongst the other white women. Why can't we appreciate that?

deviousdiva said...

Take care of yourself, Blackamazon and know that there are many of us who care about you and the brilliant thought and style you bring to the world. I don't give a gnat's toenail about the arguments that have been going on and on about the book or any of the blogwars that went before. What I do care about is when people like yourself get trampled on and hurt. Your voice is clear and strong and beautiful and just the fact that you wrote this post, speaks volumes about you. Thank you for standing up and putting yourself in the front line. I am so glad there are "young people" like you around.

Sing sister sing.

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Soulhuntre said...

It really sucks that you are being so attacked even more that it has hurt you like this.

I don't really know what it must be like to have had the expectation that others would consider my words or expect to find anything like a safe space. I don't.

People, humans, will always filter our words into their own worldview. Communities that exist primarily to marginalize each others views and who are powered primarily by anger and the feeling of rightous victimization will always turn ont hemselves. they will always find insults ans slights because they are wired to do so. It is no shock that they calle dyou a traitor because uncovering traitors is what they do to stay angry.

Thorne said...

BA, you amazing, incredible, passionate, eloquent, wonderful... (I could go on and on) woman.
As a non-white woman who is neither accepted as a WoC by many, I feel I understand your grief and outrage at being marginalized and then so virulently attacked for having dared express your feelings.
I feel nothing but disdain for a writer who is so arrogant as to reject without consideration the feelings of any reader (especially one who is somewhere among her supposed "target audience").
Those who have jumped to the writer's defense are only feeding that bitch's ego and complicating the problems she has in feeling and having empathy for women; this she who calls herself "feminist". Her lynch mob of bleeding hearts protectors make me sick. Who are they, even in their numbers, to repudiate the least of us? They are the reason that we feminists are divided - those diversionists; those subversive elitists who claim their superiority by their disdain and disregard for your true voice.
Count me as 101, if you will. I support, nay echo your cries with howls of my own.

Tom said...

Samhita: "This is crazy."

Samhita ... You're supported by a big community. This is a small community. Isn't that a kind of privilege?

I've caused women pain, maybe when I was feeling defensive, and then described their reaction as "crazy." Ugh. Would you say that I used my privilege responsibly in that situation??

If that has been done to you ... how did that feel? Won't you think about that? Won't you believe that the pain is real and stop worrying about what folks might think about you?

It's scary, but if you step up and fix it, the tension will drop immediately. Please believe me on that. One thing us white men get is plenty of experience at being forgiven for our mistakes.

Callie said...

BA, I didn't know about you until the book thing, and I'm really glad I do now, because I love your blog and your writing. Thanks for sharing yourself and your thoughts. I really appreciate how much integrity you've shown throughout this whole thing.

Samhita, it's generally not constructive to use the word "crazy" when someone is upset. At least I find it very unhelpful when people do it to me.

Deoridhe said...

*offers hugs and what comfort she can*

Meredith said...

BA, I just wanted to let you know that I hadn't read your blog at all until this FFF thing blew up, and I am so glad that I took the time to check out your work. You are an amazing and powerful writer, and your words will linger far after this thing is done. I've added you to my RSS feed and have been reading like a maniac through your archives. You rock. Fuck all of them. That is some crazy-ass shit going on there.

Kai said...

BA, as painful and ugly as this whole thing has been, your writing continues to be beautiful. Beautifully real; beautifully insightful; beautifully human.

Because the writing and the activism and the spaces that I care about are made up of people whose fundamental honest bleeding loving humanity always supercedes their marketing angle and their petty click-career calculus.

As you know well, there are way more brown folks than white folks in the world. And this is what scares them. Because in fact you're not alone; there are plenty of other machete-wielders among us, our freshly-sharpened edges glinting in the sunlight. We've got some seriously thick and tangled brush to cut through; so if you wanna take a load off for a bit, you're due for a swig of rum; the rest of us best slow down our breathing, focus our eyes, and start swinging them blades.

thinking girl said...

alright, people. enough. this is fucking enough already.

I have not been involved in any of the book stuff. I haven't read the book, I haven't read all of the posts on the book (with the exception of your posts, BA, and yours Ilyka). I haven't expressed an opinon because I can't speak to the content of the book. Furthermore, I am not in a position to speak for anyone. I don't trust my white ass enough sometimes, and the very last thing I would ever want to do is have someone hurting like BA is hurting right now over something that I said.

well, enough of being neutral. I've had it. because being neutral isn't enough. being neutral hurts. it doesn't matter if BA is hurting over something I've said or something someone else has said. that doesn't make me feel any better. that is so totally not the fucking point. BA has been erased, not just here, but everywhere, not jsut by the whitefemiblogosphere, but by the fucking society we live in everyday, subscribe to everyday. AND IT ISN"T RIGHT. AND I"M FUCKING SICK OF IT. AND FEMINISTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR WOMEN - ALL WOMEN, ALL KINDS OF WOMEN. And yet we are not. we close ranks around (white) race. we get defensive around (white) race. and we have no fucking right.

And I'm sorry, BA. I haven't said or written anything about this, and I'm still sorry. I'm sorry for NOT speaking up when my gut said to. I'm sorry for thinking that neutral was the correct position to maintain, for not seeing that 'neutral' is just as hurtful. I'm sorry to see that once again WOC have been co-opted and WOC words have been twisted and WOC have been told they're over-reacting, they're being big meanies, they're not practicing 'solidarity'. ALL I SEE is WOC practicing solidarity, and where is the solidarity for WOC??!?!??!?!

BA, you are brilliant, shockingly, dumbfoundingly, beautifully brilliant. don't you ever doubt yourself, not for one minute. you're a knockout, and you are vastly important, to me and to all these other readers standing here with you in solidarity. I know I don't comment much, but I want you to know that I am absolutely here with you.

Trinity said...

jesus christ. I don't know what happened -- I've not been following the book issue, other than reading your post on it and thinking it make a heap of sense -- but people really need to stop shitting on you constantly, BA. It's crazy fucked up.

Fire Fly said...

{hugs}

I'm so sorry you've been so badly maligned in this. I'm sorry you feel so hurt and upset. I hope all the love that people have turned your way in the comments above do something to help.

If not, I wish you all the kindness and beauty you need, and then some.

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Changeseeker said...

I have been -- thankfully -- out of this loop. I've had my own personal stressors of late and couldn't have been of much use to you, BA. But you know I respect your position (whatever it is) because I've learned over time that I can trust that. This takes time and consistency and rigorous honesty. I loves ya, girl! (And there's nothing wrong with tears of pain or of rage or of frustration or of any kind. Tears keep us alive and strong and writing...) xo

kactus said...

I second what everybody else has written, and an especial Hell Yeah! to thinking girl's comment:
And I'm sorry, BA. I haven't said or written anything about this, and I'm still sorry. I'm sorry for NOT speaking up when my gut said to. I'm sorry for thinking that neutral was the correct position to maintain, for not seeing that 'neutral' is just as hurtful.

Sylvia said...

I'm so sorry sister, and I know I probably have no business apologizing, but I am, BA. If you need to talk, I'm here.

snappy mackerel said...

Like Callie and Meredith said, I just started reading this blog since the FFF debate. I'm really glad that it's here and that you're writing. I'm 23 and white, and I come from a decidedly different class than the big feminist bloggers. I've been frustrated with feminism and FFF cinched it, but the aftermath of FFF has opened my eyes to other folks out there who are doing shit that matters and has challenged me to address my own passivity about race.

I don't feel comfortable commenting much, because right now I'm just listening and learning. But I'm here and I really, really thank you for what you do.

annalouise said...

fuck 'em.

I don't even read the "big" feminist blogs because, well, why bother? I'm sick of the same old boring old drivel nitpicking the horrifying sexism is x piece of pop culture or obsessing about the career choices of upper-class women or whining about how horrible it is to be seen as pretty and desirable. *yawn*

You and the blogging circle you are a part of are where the exciting, new, relevent feminist talk is happening. So that's what I read.

Vox said...

BA: I'm so sorry you're hurting, and I'm sorry I ran away from those threads and wasn't there to back you up. Screw them all, you're better than they are, you're smarter, and you deserve better.

AWE said...

Hi BA,
I'm a feminist lurker. I read your stuff and afterward mutter ROCK ON to myself.

Ah, what can I say that is ultimately different than all the other supporters? Perhaps nothing? Perhaps it just might be best to let you know another WOC/FOC sees what you see, pisses on the same rocks of racism and blindness, and shouts into the same oppressive winds.

Keep on it, grrrrl.

AradhanaD said...

BA, this post made me cry and I am so sorry for all this.

People's feelings are real, your views are real - what you say is important and needs to be heard.

I'm sorry.

Andrew said...

Fuck 'em BA.

And thinking girl's right: neutrality hurts. I've followed that whole FFF thing thru the weekend, but refrained from commenting cause I didn't think I had much to contribute to it. Wrong. I see that now, and it won't happen again.

I love you, your writing and your passion and if you need to take some time to heal from this, I hope you'll come back twice bad ass as before.

Samhita said...

I didn't mean BA is crazy. At all, I was saying the whole debacle between me and some folks is.

Black Amazon, you are an amazing writer, love your style, always have, always makes me pause and think and be like damn. my heart does indeed go out to you and I have been reading you for since before the FFF stuff.

DKRF (Fmrly Tom) said...

Samhita nobody says you called any person crazy. But as Callie said you used the word. In this comment I hear you leaving it out there.

little light said...

BA, you're a fuckin' hero.
I'm sorry I haven't done more, and I'm sorry it's taken me so long to learn to follow your lead.

Five Before Midnight said...

What Thinking Girl, Kactus and others have said so well. I'm getting tired of being tired of seeing so many excellent female bloggers of color get bullied off of the internet and in offnet activism as well. Each departure has left a hole behind that can't be filled. With each one gone, it's more silence, less hope.


Oh, and fuck them. You're an amazing woman and an incredible voice in what is often a hostile blogsphere. Keep on rockin'. You're special and don't let people ever tell you differently. To Hell with them.



-Rad (Blogger bit me)

Blackamazon said...

THank you everyone for you support

as to the fuck em meme

I can't I mean i will not engage too much at this point as really I'm too young for this shit.

But I wouldn't wish this feeling on my worstest enemy . I wouldn't . I had a personal reaction

And to boost someone elses feelings I got run teh fuck over. Then Sylvia did and PEtit made ONE VISUAL GAG and motherfuckers got their chew toys out.

Mind you the best anyone can say to me in Their efforts of engage ment is well you actually did engage so we know not to engage you

OR

BUT IT WASN"t ABOUT YOU!!!

So it's not about me you didn't engage me and when I walked away and told ya why it's being evil.

It's about this firm belief that no one can be angry at you and hurt by you , because if they are tehy just don't understand.

Yes Language was used in some exchanges I don't necessarily condone , but also seems nobody notices that when Donna went off it was from a Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
as history of shit.

That was really okay as long as no one listened when we complained.

Point blank as long as no one paid attention while we threw fits there were bigger fish to fry.

INtent or not.

LIke I'm to know the difference when ... right I rehashed that in three previous posts.

This is about how rather than concentrate on producing their own positives people made no small move to kick others around and sneak in snide lil bullshit hits all ove rin spaces safe and non safe.

It s about how when shit gets hot now people wann reach out but its gotta be on their terms.

I also think its point blank some issues of socialization. Why is it that even when actually being " confrontational" it sin the vagues t most plausibly deniaable alnguage

which is A OK but me going no YOU

YOU RIGHT THERE

YOU ARE THE ONE I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH

IS mean

It's about that nobody thinks their at fault if they jsut let it happen , and don't say anything .

It's about how many I'm sorrys I fucking get that still basically try and make it sound like it's all in my head

This is about Tom head using my name and shitting on me in public but its still up and hes being soothed .

This is about that no matter what i just said it'll come down to but but your misunderstanding meeeee.

This is not crazy . This is reckoning. THis has been something I have talked about for a while. If you want to engage and interact people you do it. and if it s difficult or unwelcome you find out WHY not jsut go oh well attempts were made mistakes were made.

magniloquence said...

Ick. Ick Ick.

I second all the support on this thread, BA. And hell, I'm around for whatever... although I'm not sure what exactly that "whatever" would entail. Certainly, if you're passing through SoCal and want to vent over coffee, I know I can do that.

Heh. I know when I've gotten in unpleasant situations, I know what I wanted to hear - a lot more than "fuck 'em" (not that I think that's a wrong response to a hurting friend, just not the one I usually want when I'm the one hurting) - is "you're right."

And you know what? You're right. They are assholes, this isn't your fault, and they should all ease the fuck up off you.

Five Before Midnight said...

Heh. I know when I've gotten in unpleasant situations, I know what I wanted to hear - a lot more than "fuck 'em" (not that I think that's a wrong response to a hurting friend, just not the one I usually want when I'm the one hurting) - is "you're right."



You're right and I apologize for saying that. BA is right and she's been right. And what's happened and is happening is not right.


It s about how when shit gets hot now people wann reach out but its gotta be on their terms.

YES! I was thinking this last night at a meeting I attended too. It's more about appearances than in really addressing what's going on.

-Rad

Melinda Casino said...

BlackAmazon -

I'm sorry you're dealing with the fallout from this, and I hope you're able to take care of yourself and keep writing. I've found your writing powerful, unique, and a real contribution to the feminist community.

shannon said...

I agree with Mag. You're right, and they know it and that's why they are having a shit fit.

Copile said...

I'm so sorry, BA. This is bullshit, and it's making me want to throw up.

shannon, I disagree. I don't think they get it at all. They can't listen, they can't hear, they can't understand. It's like they make up a narrative and then that's how it is, no matter what happens they just won't admit it. It is what they say it is, and that's that.

Gwen said...

I've been a lurker for a while here, and I just wanted to say that I think you are amazing and that your blog is amazing, and that I consider myself enriched for being able to read your thoughts.

Ruthi said...

I haven't really followed this, and so I really am not justified to say anything about the situation.

But from everything I have read, I support you and think you are justified in everything you have said.

Just to add to the chorus of support.

Cassandra Says said...

I'm another lurker who never comments, mostly because I usually don't think I have anything useful to add to the debate. BA does have a tendency to pretty much nail any subject she writes about. I pretty much figure that the most useful thing I can do here most of the time is shut up and listen and try to learn something.
This shit, though... this shit is not right.
Since when do feminists get to dismiss criticisms made by other feminists as "crazy"? And do the people who keep doing that ever stop to think about why they choose the words they do and what those words mean? Feminists are usually pretty good at reading subtext. Take a look at the subtext when feminists start calling other feminists unreasonable and oversensitive, and look at the way those words are almost always applied to WOC...
We spend a whole lot of time asking men to examine their privilege. How about those of us who are white stop and take a good long look at our own privilege before we start swinging it around and using it to hurt other women?

Blackamazon said...

* starts playing rockwell in her itunes*

Um wow I am trully and honestly overwhelmed in a a good way I think.

But if anything .. I Would encourage people to read and interact and participate because if nothing else

we should try and build the community that i uess im not the only one feels is lacking?

Natasha said...

BlackAmazon - Sorry you're so hurt by all of this. I can't say that I completely understand all of where you're coming from and haven't been following this for very long, but I'm glad that you spoke out about it and hope that you'll continue to do so.

Maybe someday I really will get it, but more importantly, I bet that there are a lot more women and girls out there than you know who already do and are glad to read your words and find that they aren't alone. That someone wrote down the things they'd felt but had never quite put words to.

So please, continue to write. It isn't futile. It's just that people, all of us, are slow to learn and have a hard time understanding each other. But I think we're all better off having you as part of the conversation.

mazaru said...

You, by speaking, by engaging the way you have, have made a genuine difference to me. You have made me stop and think about my privilege, silence, erasure, complicity, your words have hit me hard, and I am a better person for it. You are making changes for people you cannot see, speaking to people who haven't spoken up, people like me who will take your words into the real world and make changes because of it. Thank you.

mazaru said...

And by 'the real world' I mean 'my real world', my little corner.

Sheelzebub said...

I find it *very* ironic that the self-same women who bristled at the same treatment from progressive, sexist men don't see that they're doing the same thing to women of color.

And yes, BA, you are right.

belledame222 said...

BA--you're brilliant and funny and talented (and teh hawt) and, and,

(channeling generations' worth of Jewish moms)

"I just want you to be happy"

(bursts into tears, in true ancestral tradition)

No, dammit--it's the massive unfairness of it all.

But, people hear you, and care about you, and you do have a place in the world, very much so; and the world's better for it, even if way too much of it is too damn stupid to see it.

M.Dot. said...

Jesus.

Your language is beautiful.

You clearly have a gift.

The question is have you claimed it.

aim
hummingbyrd89

lets. chat.

Linden said...

You are not mad, but speak forth words of truth and soberness.

I am definitely seeing the pattern of concerns -yours and others'- being dismissed, mischaracterized or ignored. When people are called out on it, they all claim (and I bet they feel) that they all have a perfectly rational explanation for it. But it all seems to go one way. This is not the first disagreement I've seen on the feminist blogosphere, and they seem remarkably similar. It *is* a big deal.
Just know that people are reading what you write, and you are influencing a lot of people. We are grateful for your words.

Anonymous said...

Who needs to get cut?

-Delux

Octogalore said...

" I would encourage people to read and interact and participate because if nothing else

we should try and build the community that i guess im not the only one feels is lacking?"

BA -- you're not the only one who feels that way and I'll try to delurk and participate more often.

Sometimes I, and only speaking for myself here, don't participate as much, not out of a lack of interest or agreement, but more out of a cowardice of being perceived as "not getting it" or being too bathed in white privilege to be able to say anything valuable.

I just had a stream-of-consciousness thought that, although I feel comfortable posting on feminist blogs because I have the entry characteristic of being female, that doesn't guarantee that I'll feel any "community" with the women on those blogs. In fact, on one on them in particular, I was accused of NOT being female...

So anyway, my cowardice is not really not a good reason to hold back, and I will do better.

Nanette said...

BA, this is such a beautiful, powerful, tragic testament - I lost all my words for a time after reading it, and also Sylvia's. Had to just stop and sit for a bit.

Never give up, and never doubt your talent and worth.

Donna Darko said...

What Cassandra said on her blog:

When I studied feminism at university more than 10 years ago I honestly thought that by this point this issue would be resolved. I thought that at some point the feminist establishment would have to stop being so damn stubborn and actually LISTEN to what WOC have been saying since the very beginning. Why is that not happening? The internet should make it easier. The technological medium allows people all over the world to interact in real time. It should be a medium tailor made for collaboration. Why then is the door to the feminist club still so firmly shut, and why is it that every time a WOC feminist tries to pry it open she gets it slammed in her face?

This shit needs to change, and it needs to change now.


You know how I feel about my favorite Amazon.

((((BA))))

ripley said...

You are right.

I agree with other commenters that the internet is NOT a safe space. So I limit my interaction with it. Unfortunately this means I don't always show my support as quickly as I could.

but anyway you are right, and I am really sorry that people have (again) been so ignorant and hateful.

I love your writing and your angles.

Tom said...

Hello BA,
I have been commenting occasionally under the names Tom and DKRF (fmrly Tom). But I am not Mr. Head! I just heard of him yesterday and it suddenly occurred to me that I might have caused some confusion. (I hope not! My views appear to be very distant from Mr. Head's.)

prof black woman said...

Listen. I am sick to death of seeing all of my sisters out there beat down by supposed feminists (read white, upper class, heterosexual, privileged born-female gender only analysis women who resort to victim status whenever called out), particularly in the blogosphere, and I want you to know that I am out here with you. I am watching. I am talking back. And I, like the blog diva who pointed me here, will not let you stand alone. We are strong together!

They want to make you think you are the only one, that your ideas are ridiculous and unintelligible. They want to misrepresent and belittle you in public to silence you in a sea of confusion and hate so that the only thing left behind is their condemnation.

DO NOT LET THEM SILENCE YOU!!!!! YOU ARE *NOT* ALONE

prof black woman said...

i don't know why my comment came up without a link. you can hit me back at http://www.pleaseprofessorblackwoman.typepad.com

I'll be writing on the ways academics, particularly senior female scholars of privilege, silence women of color feminists and what we can do to make sure that we stay empowered, strong, and present here in academe for the next few weeks of my blog.

come share, you are welcome.

Katie said...

Blackamazon, I try to read you as often as I can get to my feed reader.

Heck, you're in my feed reader and the "large" sites aren't.

I, by the way, am pasty white, female, cisgender, heterosexual, etc.

And yeah, you see me post comments on the "big feminist sites" more than on yours, even if you're in my feed reader and I just drop in there from time to time, and maybe that's wrong. Maybe, even though I feel more competent to chip in and refine ideas in a debate involving experiences I've had (I try to stay out of the posts involving experiences I have nothing to do with), I should try...well...I don't know. Commenting in the way Tom did on this post when he drew on his experiences of hurting people to help others in the comments change their behaviors?

Anyway, I'm not sure about my blogging habits and issues I can relate to vs. issues I don't relate to quite so easily.

But I can tell you one thing I'm sure of. It's blogs like yours that affect my interactions on the street more than blogs like the major feminist ones. It's blogs like yours--blogs by authors who share some traits in common with me but not others--that help me become a better person and treat people who share some traits in common with me but not others better than I did before.

So thank you. I hope this means something to you.